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    #31
    I think if these full helmets were ballistics masks instead, and the tubing removed, it would be a great source of inspiration for a modern/updated Metal Guard.
    -But I acknowledge this is very much my taste.
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      #32
      Personally, I'd like to see some more brutal, soul-less, heavy-metal characters in the Metal Guard team.

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      I'm loving the concepts, by the way. See if you can get some more aggression and heartlessness into the designs.

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        #33
        I would love to play as a Metal Guard again!

        I posted this paintover of aberiu's concept in another thread a while back:
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          #34
          Originally posted by Metalfist View Post
          I would love to play as a Metal Guard again!

          I posted this paintover of aberiu's concept in another thread a while back:
          That looks great.

          Right now the necris and Malcom team (marines?) seem to have a form fitting silhouettes, and from afar you can tell what faction they are by their color (which is very UT99).
          So just as an added detail, I added some armor to make the metal guard stand out in addition to their team color.
          From a distance, they should seem armored imo, not just another faction people with form fitting armor.
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            #35
            More refs:

            Aside from the katana and Kevlar skirt (or whatever it is), I think Phantom has that metal guard look.
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            I didn't know James Hawkins contributed to the infiltrator demo with concept art.
            He stopped updating his website, blog, and deviantart long ago. Seems he jumped ship to artstation.
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              #36
              Originally posted by CognizanCe View Post

              I really like this one in particular. The Iron Guard has this really heavy, modular look. This silhouette really gets that vibe across.

              Don't underestimate the visual strength of the shoulderpads. Some of your other concepts don't have them, and look a lot more vurnable and less intimidating without them.

              Good work, looking forward to updates!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Basalt View Post
                Don't underestimate the visual strength of the shoulderpads. Some of your other concepts don't have them, and look a lot more vurnable and less intimidating without them.
                I was trying to imitate the UT3 customization options (2 shoulder pads, 1 shoulder pad, or neither).
                I just really like customization options, and I hope ut4 has lots, as in more than just hats and glasses.
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                  #38
                  Could have sworn army of 2 references would have been in the first post.
                  These guys scream metal guard,
                  and user created custom ballistics masks can be added to the store.

                  Their look shouldn't be straight forward Private Military company Mercenaries though.
                  I'd expect them to be a bit more futuristic and UT-ified.

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                  Doubt this is Army of 2, but has a futuristic high tech+armored swat vibe.
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                    #39
                    More refs.
                    -Ignore the anime faces.
                    Metal guard AF.

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                      #40
                      There's some nice work in here. I'd like to see the MG take on more of a Mad Max 'War Boy' look. The descriptions I've read on the MG are all about how they're psychotic, brainwashed and 'heartless'. To me, this doesn't mesh well with the decorative (sometimes Samurai-ish) nature of a lot of the outfits I see here (and in the past). Perhaps a common theme can be the metal face mask but otherwise they can be less outfitted, more exposed skin for tats and/or war paint. Play up the crazy, brainwashed, deranged angle.

                      Anyway, just spit-balling some ideas here. Nice work so far!
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Rick Kohler View Post
                        There's some nice work in here. I'd like to see the MG would take on more of a Mad Max 'War Boy' look. The descriptions I've read on the MG are all about how they're psychotic, brainwashed and 'heartless'. To me, this doesn't mesh well with the decorative (sometimes Samurai-ish) nature of a lot of the outfits I see here (and in the past). Perhaps a common theme can be the metal face mask but otherwise they can be less outfitted, more exposed skin for tats and/or war paint. Play up the crazy, brainwashed, deranged angle.

                        Anyway, just spit-balling some ideas here. Nice work so far!

                        You make a good point. To me, the Metal Guard is all about that sweet, scary mask. However, the written lore descriptions make them sound like either rabid psychos, or cold emotionless psychos - which fit the mask fine, but dont quite go with the rest of their outfit. Maybe we're due for a UT4 update?

                        Maybe the "Metal Guard" as we know them can have interesting / intricate costumes, but have cybernetic body parts that were rebuilt from past war wounds? Imagine a guy with metal arm(s), or a guy with a cybernetic face coming at you!

                        Then, the "war boy" kind of thing can split off on its own, and all of them have masks? It would have to be tweaked to make it more "cyberpunk" somehow to fit with the futuristic deathmatch theme that UT is supposed to be, but I can see some characters fitting in where theyre just totally blood drunk crazy rabid, and they get their leashes cut off for 10 minutes at a time during a duel or something.
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                          #42
                          Just found these on art station.
                          Definitely seems more "deranged".
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                            #43
                            I don't think we need the rich ornamented gear ...but what was always a part of the Metal Guard was their heavy armour thing (where their name derivated from). Think about them as the Dark Knights of UT with battle worn armouring ...missing and replaced limps. Medieval and Cyberpunk mixed with real Special Forces gear.
                            They are "employees" of Liandri ...the shouldn't look too much post-apocalyptic. But also not too clean and fancy like in the old games.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by [Epic]Rick Kohler View Post
                              There's some nice work in here. I'd like to see the MG take on more of a Mad Max 'War Boy' look.....Play up the crazy, brainwashed, deranged angle.
                              I wouldn't.
                              The deranged, maniacal character type character in a strait jacket has been done to death, and would take away from what gave these characters that unique UT vibe.
                              What attracted me to the metal guard was the fact they have the calm, cold blooded, professional, "hunter killer" type look, and in the midst of a tournament of egotistic charismatics (raw steel, Thunder crash etc) they have none.
                              They were the cold, emotionless faction.
                              They were more Jason Voorhees than Mad max war boy.

                              Originally posted by [Epic]Rick Kohler View Post
                              The descriptions.....doesn't mesh well with the decorative (sometimes Samurai-ish) nature of a lot of the outfits I see here (and in the past).
                              I acknowledge that the descriptions don't match the look.
                              UT99 for the PS2 had von's portrait look really psychotic/maniacal/deranged.
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                              So the question will be, what dictates the art direction for these guys?
                              Their original look?
                              The lore?

                              I think it was Chris Perna that mentioned the necris will have different representatives of the necris collective.
                              There will be an assassin necris, soldier necris, and religious necris.
                              I think the metal guard should be treated the same, in that there should be that really deranged one that's a threat to everybody, but there should also be the jason voorhees type.
                              These voices remind me of the war boys, and I do NOT think this should be applicable to all metal guard.
                              Should only be applicable to that one that's really deranged.




                              Originally posted by [Epic]Rick Kohler View Post
                              The descriptions I've read on the MG are all about how they're psychotic, brainwashed and 'heartless'.
                              You know what vibe I get just looking at them now that I'm older?
                              They look muzzled.
                              Yes, if they can do whatever they want they'd flip out and kill everybody, but the fact they look muzzled and restrained by a superior, more powerful force (Xan kriegor? Liandri doctors experimenting on them and implanting a kill switch?) really makes them unique compared to every other cliche erratic killer.
                              I'm actually reminded of scorpion and subzero from the first Mortal Kombat movie.
                              Everyone knew then as badass ninjas from the games, but they fact they were enslaved by shang tsung didn't detract from their awesomeness, and they were prolly the only ones elite enough to be chosen/enslaved by shang tsung.
                              THAT should be the vibe the MG give off.


                              Originally posted by BigFatErik
                              Then, the "war boy" kind of thing can split off on its own
                              Yes. Don't make them all warboys.

                              Originally posted by BigFatErik
                              but I can see some characters fitting in where theyre just totally blood drunk crazy rabid, and they get their leashes cut off for 10 minutes at a time during a duel or something.
                              Agreed.

                              Originally posted by papercoffee
                              but what was always a part of the Metal Guard was their heavy armour thing
                              This was already discussed on the first page.
                              The metal guard name had nothing to do with being more heavily armored. They were only decorated in gold metal trim.
                              The material was mostly kevlar and cloth.
                              Only the females had boobplate type armor.

                              Originally posted by papercoffee
                              Medieval and Cyberpunk mixed with real Special Forces gear.
                              Special forces is the look I'm going for, but I admit it's hard to update because of the combination of special forces and decorative royal trim in UT99.
                              UT2k4 tried making them more medieval and the result was not very cohesive.
                              Visually they were just a mess.

                              Speaking of mad max, I HATED the look of the Hellions in UT2k4.
                              They literally looked like mad max on acid.
                              Please don't gravitate the metal guard aesthetic ANYWHERE near this art direction.
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                                #45
                                Hellions are not cyberpunk for me, they are just punk in a future environment. And I dislike them as well.

                                Originally posted by CognizanCe View Post
                                This was already discussed on the first page.
                                The metal guard name had nothing to do with being more heavily armored. They were only decorated in gold metal trim.
                                The material was mostly kevlar and cloth.
                                Only the females had boobplate type armor.
                                Hm... well, Ballistic Armour. No one said nothing about metal plates. "Metal" is also seen as a synonym for sturdiness and strong armoury. As I said, we don't need those fancy ornamentation. But we need some metal or else they are just another Thundercrash with masks.

                                Originally posted by CognizanCe View Post
                                Special forces is the look I'm going for, but I admit it's hard to update because of the combination of special forces and decorative royal trim in UT99.
                                UT2k4 tried making them more medieval and the result was not very cohesive.
                                Visually they were just a mess.
                                You got me wrong... I meant a mix of them not one of those as art direction alone.
                                The Jin Roh police force without those characteristic helmets and wide shoulder pads...and maybe lesser armour is a good direction.
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