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**XxEXUSXX** · 09-23-2014, 05:29 AM

Impact Hammer ++++++

**Tempestry** · 09-23-2014, 03:34 PM

Really enjoying your tracks Archer, I like how they incorporate a lot of the style from the original games while still feeling more modern.

As much as I like the UT99 music, styles have changed pretty drastically since they were released and I worry that too much deference to the original styles might limit some of the places it could go with newer tracks.

Maybe some stuff further out of the comfort zone in a few directions would be great in this stage to start exploring where else it could go. I could even see some near ambient tracks (or just reduced percussion) or rougher 80's industrial being effective if done well enough.

Any thoughts?

**Avalanche._** · 09-23-2014, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Tempestry View Post

Really enjoying your tracks Archer, I like how they incorporate a lot of the style from the original games while still feeling more modern.

As much as I like the UT99 music, styles have changed pretty drastically since they were released and I worry that too much deference to the original styles might limit some of the places it could go with newer tracks.

Maybe some stuff further out of the comfort zone in a few directions would be great in this stage to start exploring where else it could go. I could even see some near ambient tracks (or just reduced percussion) or rougher 80's industrial being effective if done well enough.

Any thoughts?

Those are definitely nice options to consider in the future, I'd like to make at least one ambient track since I've never done that before, the rougher industrial doesn't sound bad either!

In the end I want every track I make to be mostly different from the other, because variation was a huge strength of the soundtracks from the previous UTs, so I might explore a lot of new styles from time to time to achieve that.

The one thing I'd refuse to look into would be dubstep and variants of it, it just strays way too far imo (and it's generally a bad idea to include such controversial styles, one loves it while the other hates it).

Coming few weeks I'll calm down on the music though, need to focus a bit more on college, I've been busy with music nonstop for a few weeks now

**Tempestry** · 09-23-2014, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Archer6621 View Post

Those are definitely nice options to consider in the future, I'd like to make at least one ambient track since I've never done that before, the rougher industrial doesn't sound bad either!

In the end I want every track I make to be mostly different from the other, because variation was a huge strength of the soundtracks from the previous UTs, so I might explore a lot of new styles from time to time to achieve that.

The one thing I'd refuse to look into would be dubstep and variants of it, it just strays way too far imo (and it's generally a bad idea to include such controversial styles, one loves it while the other hates it).

Coming few weeks I'll calm down on the music though, need to focus a bit more on college, I've been busy with music nonstop for a few weeks now

I know what you mean on polarizing styles, but likely if it's not labeled ( like "check my dubstep track") and done well many style influences *could* work, just be careful not to identify it as such and often it won't be noticed. ;-)

Except Trap, that wouldn't fit at all. :-P

If I find some time I might throw up a couple tracks and see if anyone has thoughts...

**Avalanche._** · 09-23-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Tempestry View Post

I know what you mean on polarizing styles, but likely if it's not labeled ( like "check my dubstep track") and done well many style influences *could* work, just be careful not to identify it as such and often it won't be noticed. ;-)

Except Trap, that wouldn't fit at all. :-P

If I find some time I might throw up a couple tracks and see if anyone has thoughts...

Please do, variety will be key, I can provide variety to some extent but at some point more people need to step forward and make some awesome stuff

There were some posts earlier with great music concepts by people, need to bump those..

But yeah, definitely make some stuff, I'll give feedback :P

**Stevelois** · 09-29-2014, 12:36 PM

Just wanted to say THX very much for releasing Abyss, Flow, Destroyer, Orbit and Impact Hammer in the full package with fade out. I listening all the songs very often and I like them very much.

Excellent compilation so far and looking forward your next song

**WarpSpasm** · 09-29-2014, 12:49 PM

i liked all the tracks but i think abyss really nails the UT concept...really good job man

**Frostbite83** · 09-29-2014, 02:22 PM

Abyss its good Music for the Deadfall Map

**Voparixly** · 10-04-2014, 06:12 AM

Your music is very good man. You've done an excellent job of capturing that UT vibe.

I'll echo the praise for Abyss. It gives me Rankin vibes.
Flow reminds me of oldschool DM-Liandri. Good for a past-faced, open, chaotic map.
Destroyer sounds like something you'd want on a high-speed CTF map.
Orbit's lovely and a welcome deviation from the other tracks, which are all very fast (but good). I envision a grand, space-themed CTF or Warfare map for this track.
Impact Hammer isn't quite there yet methinks. It has some really nice parts, but shifts in theme too often. In some places it's also simply too soft. Couldn't quite decide in which map it'd fit most, maybe something like CTF/BR-Anubis.

**Frostbite83** · 10-04-2014, 03:24 PM

Destroyer its Better Music for the Deadfall Map

**Avalanche._** · 10-04-2014, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Chris UT4 View Post

Destroyer its Better Music for the Deadfall Map

Well I submitted all the music a week ago or so, you might hear them in-game at some point

Originally posted by Voparixly View Post

Your music is very good man. You've done an excellent job of capturing that UT vibe.

I'll echo the praise for Abyss. It gives me Rankin vibes.
Flow reminds me of oldschool DM-Liandri. Good for a past-faced, open, chaotic map.
Destroyer sounds like something you'd want on a high-speed CTF map.
Orbit's lovely and a welcome deviation from the other tracks, which are all very fast (but good). I envision a grand, space-themed CTF or Warfare map for this track.
Impact Hammer isn't quite there yet methinks. It has some really nice parts, but shifts in theme too often. In some places it's also simply too soft. Couldn't quite decide in which map it'd fit most, maybe something like CTF/BR-Anubis.

I agree with you regarding Impact Hammer, I personally don't think it's suitable for in-game stuff. Maybe it can be the song that plays when you go to the credits, after I make some necessary changes to it :P

Thanks for the motivation! I'll make another batch of tracks sometime in the future.

**Sir_Brizz** · 10-10-2014, 01:16 PM

I didn't see this thread before.... sorry

Destroyer is one of the most awesome sounding UT sounding songs I have heard in a long time. I love that one.

Abyss really evokes that UT feeling. Destroyer is better but this would drop right in to many UT levels in my opinion.

Flow is also killer. It would definitely build tension while playing. Awesome!

Orbit, as it's name implies, would be awesome on just about any outer space map. I can imagine playing many floating island maps to this track.

Impact Hammer is great too, I could really feel that on a level like Peak.

Overall just really freaking impressive work Archer. Any of those could be in a UT map and it would feel like it fits perfectly with the style. Great job!

**Avalanche._** · 10-10-2014, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Sir_Brizz View Post

I didn't see this thread before.... sorry

Destroyer is one of the most awesome sounding UT sounding songs I have heard in a long time. I love that one.

Abyss really evokes that UT feeling. Destroyer is better but this would drop right in to many UT levels in my opinion.

Flow is also killer. It would definitely build tension while playing. Awesome!

Orbit, as it's name implies, would be awesome on just about any outer space map. I can imagine playing many floating island maps to this track.

Impact Hammer is great too, I could really feel that on a level like Peak.

Overall just really freaking impressive work Archer. Any of those could be in a UT map and it would feel like it fits perfectly with the style. Great job!

Thanks for the feedback and motivation, no need to apologize

**CoconutFred** · 10-13-2014, 02:23 PM

Hey Archer, your work is really able to capture a distinctive UT99 feel, kudos to you for that. I can tell that you've put a lot of work into these tracks! I especially like Impact Hammer and Flow.

However - and I'm not completely sure how to explain this - your music just seems a little bit "dated." Not completely sure what causes this (I know next to nothing about producing music, forgive me). It might just be that some songs repeat their motifs a little bit too much; "Destroyer," for instance, sounds really really really cool at the beginning, but the motif starts to get repetitive and just... grating by the end. I feel another big part of the dated feel is your copious use of retro-style synths. This isn't necessarily a bad thing (definitely hits the sweet spot for nostalgia), but I feel like your songs would fit into a game or movie from or parodying the 80s, like Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon.

So, some tips from a guy that doesn't know anything about music, but can hopefully provide useful feedback still:

Try incorporating more than just one or two themes for each song. Go Down, for instance, has like 4 distinct parts. Many of your songs already do this, but some (like Abyss) seem like they don't have different parts, they just take away layers of sound and add them back in later.
Use less retro-sounding synths! They are absolutely awesome if all you're going for is a UT99 feel, but we want to attract 2kx veterans and new players to this game as well. Hyperblast Redux (just a rehash of Go Down) from 2k4 and HenrikRyosa's Convergent Boundary are great examples (in my opinion) of more "modern-sounding" songs that still fit perfectly into the UT franchise.

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