Does Flak need a nerf?

[RøOk!e]

What do people think about the current state of Flak? Does it need a nerf?

My opinion, yes, it needs reductions somewhere, it hits like a mac truck even at medium distances. I understand close range, it's going to be a bit deadly with a full flak, but to me it appears to be slightly too easy.

[Ward_-]

yes of course silly man. what kinda question is that

[dangerousShark09]

Yes, but only a small reduction to the maximum damage of the primary fire. Perhaps only 130 or 135 damage instead of 150.

[Infiadux]

Yes it's worse than rockets now. Not that rockets are ok - primary mostly is, but loaded rockets are super OP.

IMO Flak primary just needs much less damage. Remove middle shard.

[userod]

increase primary spread so it's harder to hit on distance, slightly decrease maximum primary damage to 150 or so, increase secondary damage to 125

[BigFatErik]

The problem is that I'm pretty sure there's a "point blank" feature that adds a big damage bonus if youre right next to the person. Just get rid of it, we don't need that.Plus I guess there's some sort of "center shard" feature that does extra damage. get rid of that too.

Make it simple - 10 shards for 14 damage each, no bonus damage or multiplier of any kind - SLIGHTLY reduce the max range (only a little so you can't snipe with it).

And flak ball should do 90 damage on direct hit (just like rockets should).

[Wowbagger]

Nah shes just perfect the way she is

[bass3]

Nah shes just perfect the way she is

Flak is awesome ;D

[Danko955]

the thing that bothers me with flak is that as you said it kills me many times on medium distance even when guy misses me and hits the wall or something.
it should be deadliest in close range but i think they need to reduce its power bit more over distance.
thats just me

[Flikswich]

Imo the spread is great, feels consistent and responsive. Making it wider is a terrible idea cos it just makes it feel worse.

Damage could do with a tone down though. I think it's 173 currently, imo something more like 150 is reasonable so you don't die in 1shot if you have thighpads or a big health stack.

But I think it's the most responsive and balanced flak we've ever had in the game so something is right, it'd be a massive shame to revert to a flak that feels horribly unresponsive.

[SnoopDogg]

increase primary spread so it's harder to hit on distance, slightly decrease maximum primary damage to 150 or so, increase secondary damage to 125

no, just don't increase spread again. then we have a clunky mess again.
damage reduction would be enough.

[rAge.]

Of course it needs. Damage reduction to ~150, more damage falloff on distance.
+signle point collision of course.

[Skaary]

Who want nerfed weapons - just play casual DooM.

The UT is no place for wimps!

[Cunni]

increase primary spread so it's harder to hit on distance, slightly decrease maximum primary damage to 150 or so, increase secondary damage to 125

Current damage for primary fire is close to 170. It is too high. 150 would be OK.

Spread / ROF / Fall-off are fine for me.

[RPGWiZ4RD]

Don't know what the current values are but flak would have been perfect now with just slight dmg value tweaks:

- Should be 144 or so with center shard removed
- 2ndary direct hit could do like 112 ~ 118 dmg
- Slight shard hitbox reduction (single or 4 point)

It's better than it's ever been before right now though and very close to being ideal, for me it's just dmg tweaks left that could be made.